{"id":308,"date":"2020-12-22T15:35:13","date_gmt":"2020-12-22T15:35:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/?page_id=308"},"modified":"2025-03-09T20:19:59","modified_gmt":"2025-03-09T20:19:59","slug":"haiseb-song-and-movement","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/index.php\/haiseb-song-and-movement\/","title":{"rendered":"Haiseb Song and movement"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"308\" class=\"elementor elementor-308\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-e958a63 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"e958a63\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-09d4619\" data-id=\"09d4619\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7da3156 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"7da3156\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8f1e8ad elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8f1e8ad\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>This clip was taken in 2019 near\u00a0\u00a0D\u00e2ures. The Damara lady is demonstrating how Haiseb dances and sings in relation to the story shown previously of Haiseb picking berries<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-424cad8 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"424cad8\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-4ebb170\" data-id=\"4ebb170\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6c1b74c elementor-widget elementor-widget-video\" data-id=\"6c1b74c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;youtube_url&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/youtu.be\\\/4jHrwL6v0FE&quot;,&quot;video_type&quot;:&quot;youtube&quot;,&quot;controls&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"video.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-wrapper elementor-open-inline\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-video\"><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-d5d52c0 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"d5d52c0\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-7e004ad\" data-id=\"7e004ad\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e7bac69 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e7bac69\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>The Awaras family and Animare Culture group performing a Haiseb song<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-4ffeb9a elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"4ffeb9a\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-056bd33\" data-id=\"056bd33\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-921a8e3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-video\" data-id=\"921a8e3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;youtube_url&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/youtu.be\\\/O9oyjIGdX_M&quot;,&quot;video_type&quot;:&quot;youtube&quot;,&quot;controls&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"video.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-wrapper elementor-open-inline\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-video\"><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-398dad4 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"398dad4\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-007a2bc\" data-id=\"007a2bc\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-087cf06 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"087cf06\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"font_7\">Johny from the Hai||om community in Outjo shared\u00a0a story that included an\u00a0action\u00a0I saw elsewhere; and\u00a0\u00a0we can see this here.\u00a0\u00a0In the story he acts out Haiseb pulling out his honib, or mucus, and flinging it.<\/p><p class=\"font_7\"><span class=\"wixGuard\">\u200b<\/span><\/p><p class=\"font_7\">Honib is rubbed on to children if they receive a burn. This may or may not be relevant&#8230;<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-92e6c93 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"92e6c93\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-bd625e4\" data-id=\"bd625e4\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-12ba927 elementor-widget elementor-widget-video\" data-id=\"12ba927\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;youtube_url&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/youtu.be\\\/VO2M5Mebx70&quot;,&quot;video_type&quot;:&quot;youtube&quot;,&quot;controls&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"video.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-wrapper elementor-open-inline\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-video\"><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-307a66e elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"307a66e\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-dd70f40\" data-id=\"dd70f40\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2129ed9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2129ed9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"font_7\">Wilfred Naibob, near\u00a0D\u00e2ures, 2015.<\/p><p class=\"font_7\">Mariane !Owos oas\u00a0and I\u00a0asked Wilfred and his wife if they knew any Haiseb stories or songs.\u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 14px; color: var( --e-global-color-text );\">The knew a story &#8211; the Lion story. And they wanted to show us this \u00a0song and dance shown below:<\/span><\/p><p class=\"font_7\">&#8220;I will get the chicken, the big one, the grey one&#8221;.<\/p><p class=\"font_7\">They also knew another song about the rain:<\/p><p class=\"font_7\">&#8220;One cloud must come together.\u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 14px; color: var( --e-global-color-text );\">I must now go and dig the !khwa [a root to eat]&#8221;<\/span><\/p><p class=\"font_7\">Mariane explained: &#8220;After the clouds come together it rains. Then it is a good time to dig this and !nan, they can sell it. Or they must eat the dog&#8221;<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-1d49a5c elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"1d49a5c\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-2ccd322\" data-id=\"2ccd322\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dc2f45d elementor-widget elementor-widget-video\" data-id=\"dc2f45d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;youtube_url&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/youtu.be\\\/SgM-U9bSDQY&quot;,&quot;video_type&quot;:&quot;youtube&quot;,&quot;controls&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"video.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-wrapper elementor-open-inline\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-video\"><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-a6d9f1e elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"a6d9f1e\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-4fb2eb5\" data-id=\"4fb2eb5\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ee60ce0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ee60ce0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"comp-k74lg0xf\" class=\"_1Z_nJ\" data-testid=\"richTextElement\"><p class=\"font_7\">&#8220;Oh that man [Haiseb], he was badly clever. Here there was a lion man and Haiseb, they went together. So the lion man had a plan, then the lion man decided to sleep under the mountain, under the shadow of the big stone. And the Haiseb he is a |xu aob \u00a0and he knows what is going on. The |xu aob..that is the one working with the prophet things, the Haiseb was a |xu aob and he already knew that the lion man was sleeping under the shadow of the stone.<\/p><\/div><div id=\"comp-k74loo4x\" class=\"_1Z_nJ\" data-testid=\"richTextElement\"><p class=\"font_8\">Now the lion man he decided to eat the Haiseb and he decided to wait for him there under the shadow of the big stone. He is snoring the lion man, then the Haiseb came and looked around and looked around while the lion man was sleeping and snoring. After he looked and looked he says \u201cyou and me we will never be together because your plans and mine are not the same \u201c. \u00a0Haiseb moved away from\u00a0there. And that is the way they go, this one on his own and the other one on his own. The lion man did not eat the Haiseb becuase the Haiseb was already the \/xu aob and he knew what was going on.<\/p><p class=\"font_8\"><span class=\"wixGuard\">\u200b<\/span>Cl: So the lion\u00a0man was going to kill the Haiseb?<\/p><p class=\"font_8\"><span class=\"wixGuard\">\u200b<\/span>A. Yes the lion man was trying to kill, to eat the Haiseb. Then the Haiseb moved on his way and while he was moving he saw they people sitting around and he went\u00a0there. There was a water borehole where the Haiseb came, they were fetching the water from it in those days. There were two women taking the water out of the borehole when\u00a0Haiseb came there. They took their\u00a0water and went back to their\u00a0houses.<\/p><p class=\"font_8\">When they arrived home then the Haiseb\u00a0decide that I am also a person and I have to go with them, so \u00a0he went to the house. Then the Haeseb and the other people were talking about the family &#8221;\u00a0I am a child of who and I come from where I am a child of who&#8221; and those stuff. They recognising each other, that was the end where Haiseb found his family and enjoy his life and they stay together as a family.<\/p><p class=\"font_8\"><strong>Comment<\/strong><\/p><p class=\"font_8\">This brief story reveals a common habit of pulling together narratives that are often presented as separate stories. The first section about the Lion tells us about Haiseb&#8217;s magical status as someone from the Old Time who can see in the future. This Old Time status is picked up again in the last section where the world is sorted &#8211; Lion goes one way, Haiseb goes the other. Lion and Haiseb\u00a0are different and the process of separation represents the move from Old Time to New Time. This separation is central to KhoeSan folklore and is sometimes referred to as as\u00a0great &#8216;sorting&#8217;. It is the time when the world became ordered and people started eating game animals<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This clip was taken in 2019 near\u00a0\u00a0D\u00e2ures. The Damara lady is demonstrating how Haiseb dances and sings in relation to the story shown previously of Haiseb picking berries https:\/\/youtu.be\/4jHrwL6v0FE The Awaras family and Animare Culture group performing a Haiseb song https:\/\/youtu.be\/O9oyjIGdX_M Johny from the Hai||om community in Outjo shared\u00a0a story that included an\u00a0action\u00a0I saw elsewhere; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"elementor_header_footer","meta":{"ocean_post_layout":"","ocean_both_sidebars_style":"","ocean_both_sidebars_content_width":0,"ocean_both_sidebars_sidebars_width":0,"ocean_sidebar":"","ocean_second_sidebar":"","ocean_disable_margins":"enable","ocean_add_body_class":"","ocean_shortcode_before_top_bar":"","ocean_shortcode_after_top_bar":"","ocean_shortcode_before_header":"","ocean_shortcode_after_header":"","ocean_has_shortcode":"","ocean_shortcode_after_title":"","ocean_shortcode_before_footer_widgets":"","ocean_shortcode_after_footer_widgets":"","ocean_shortcode_before_footer_bottom":"","ocean_shortcode_after_footer_bottom":"","ocean_display_top_bar":"default","ocean_display_header":"default","ocean_header_style":"","ocean_center_header_left_menu":"","ocean_custom_header_template":"","ocean_custom_logo":0,"ocean_custom_retina_logo":0,"ocean_custom_logo_max_width":0,"ocean_custom_logo_tablet_max_width":0,"ocean_custom_logo_mobile_max_width":0,"ocean_custom_logo_max_height":0,"ocean_custom_logo_tablet_max_height":0,"ocean_custom_logo_mobile_max_height":0,"ocean_header_custom_menu":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_family":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_subset":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_size":0,"ocean_menu_typo_font_size_tablet":0,"ocean_menu_typo_font_size_mobile":0,"ocean_menu_typo_font_size_unit":"px","ocean_menu_typo_font_weight":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_weight_tablet":"","ocean_menu_typo_font_weight_mobile":"","ocean_menu_typo_transform":"","ocean_menu_typo_transform_tablet":"","ocean_menu_typo_transform_mobile":"","ocean_menu_typo_line_height":0,"ocean_menu_typo_line_height_tablet":0,"ocean_menu_typo_line_height_mobile":0,"ocean_menu_typo_line_height_unit":"","ocean_menu_typo_spacing":0,"ocean_menu_typo_spacing_tablet":0,"ocean_menu_typo_spacing_mobile":0,"ocean_menu_typo_spacing_unit":"","ocean_menu_link_color":"","ocean_menu_link_color_hover":"","ocean_menu_link_color_active":"","ocean_menu_link_background":"","ocean_menu_link_hover_background":"","ocean_menu_link_active_background":"","ocean_menu_social_links_bg":"","ocean_menu_social_hover_links_bg":"","ocean_menu_social_links_color":"","ocean_menu_social_hover_links_color":"","ocean_disable_title":"default","ocean_disable_heading":"default","ocean_post_title":"","ocean_post_subheading":"","ocean_post_title_style":"","ocean_post_title_background_color":"","ocean_post_title_background":0,"ocean_post_title_bg_image_position":"","ocean_post_title_bg_image_attachment":"","ocean_post_title_bg_image_repeat":"","ocean_post_title_bg_image_size":"","ocean_post_title_height":0,"ocean_post_title_bg_overlay":0.5,"ocean_post_title_bg_overlay_color":"","ocean_disable_breadcrumbs":"default","ocean_breadcrumbs_color":"","ocean_breadcrumbs_separator_color":"","ocean_breadcrumbs_links_color":"","ocean_breadcrumbs_links_hover_color":"","ocean_display_footer_widgets":"default","ocean_display_footer_bottom":"default","ocean_custom_footer_template":"","footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-308","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/308","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=308"}],"version-history":[{"count":18,"href":"https:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/308\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":819,"href":"https:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/308\/revisions\/819"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thinkingthreads.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=308"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}